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Monte
05-18-2012, 09:43 AM
I've been messing around with water transfer printing, or "hydrographics", and I think I might end up getting a tank and whole setup (the wife isn't too happy about all the chemicals in the sink and bathtub) and coating stuff as a side-business.

Basically it's a film that you float on water (lots of patterns available), dissolve with chemicals, and dip just about anything through leaving the ink in every little crack and crevice on the part.

My first attempt ever....painted in the rain with a terrible basecoat:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-05-18_10-02-08_590.jpg

Just did this one last night, came out perfect:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-05-18_10-02-22_7.jpg

I just bought the tool to take apart my xbox360 controllers so I'm going to do those next, and then my turbo housings in a different skull pattern I just bought kinda like this one:

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy360/colormegone4/2012-04-10111847.jpg

I'll grab some pictures of a few other things I've done. I was also thinking of doing my Sig226 frame and slide in digi-camo.

Anyone interested if I pull the trigger on this side-business? I can do engine covers, video game parts, interior trim pieces, sports equipment, gun parts (except recievers....no FFL), just about any metal or plastic part that can be dipped in water.

zedron
05-18-2012, 09:48 AM
Sweet.
Can you make custom graphics or do you have to buy whats available?
Also, how heat tolerant are they. Turbo housing get smoking hot.

Monte
05-18-2012, 09:58 AM
Have to do whats available. I can get custom graphics, but they are EXPENSIVE and have to be done in large quantity.

Stealth
05-18-2012, 10:29 AM
Can i hydropaint my dick?

Monte
05-18-2012, 10:38 AM
I had a carbon-fiber hand for about 10min, so yeah, mail it to me and I'll put ballons on it.

Punisher11
05-18-2012, 02:27 PM
I know someone selling a tank, its expensive though, but it's big enough to do full size rifles and more

Monte
05-18-2012, 03:51 PM
They're $5k+ for the real setups cause they are all stainless, have built in heaters, timer, flusher, ballwashers, etc. All I'll need is a decent sized one to do larger dash components, rims, and rifle barrels....should be enough. I've got some cool skull and zombie camo patterns comming in soon you might like Pun.

Punisher11
05-19-2012, 12:37 PM
sent you a pm

zedron
05-19-2012, 09:24 PM
Pm me a price to do a spark plug cover for a B-Series Honda motor excluding shipping in carbon fiber. Its like 4 inches wide and 8 inches or so long. Ill add the shipping to whatever it costs to send it to you, etc.

Fkntkn
05-21-2012, 07:33 AM
A guy in Alabama actually invented that whole process. He is an acquaintance. He did it for his bow and scope company and was dipping everything in camo.


That stuff is really cool.

Fkntkn
05-21-2012, 07:34 AM
Pm me a price to do a spark plug cover for a B-Series Honda motor excluding shipping in carbon fiber. Its like 4 inches wide and 8 inches or so long. Ill add the shipping to whatever it costs to send it to you, etc.

The fuck kind of spark plug cover are you running that is 4 inches wide son?

Monte
05-21-2012, 07:39 AM
Is it a factory plastic piece or an aftermarket material?



Fuse cover I did for my Camaro:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-05-04_09-24-21_133.jpg

Monte
05-21-2012, 02:33 PM
A guy in Alabama actually invented that whole process. He is an acquaintance. He did it for his bow and scope company and was dipping everything in camo.


That stuff is really cool.

Does he have a company? Do they sell supplies? I always prefer to support the originator rather than the copycats.

zedron
05-21-2012, 02:49 PM
The fuck kind of spark plug cover are you running that is 4 inches wide son?

Is it a factory plastic piece or an aftermarket material?

789

I might actually be interested in doing the entire valve cover too in a different pattern. I am just curious how well it stands up to heat.

Monte
05-21-2012, 03:36 PM
When it comes to heat, it is more of the paint than the ink. Aluminum is very porous and in an exposed engine bay it holds moisture/oil in it so paint rarely sticks to used parts very well. I can bake it to remove as much moisture and oil as I can, but I can't guarantee how it will stand up over the years; but if you want to try I'll do my best. I can also do other color carbon-fibers, the basecoat dictates the coloring, the grey pattern is the only thing that is transferred in the tank process.

zedron
05-21-2012, 04:09 PM
My valve cover still has the factory coating on it. Its a bitch to remove too. I would want the skulls on it like in the pic you posted of the turbo housing.

Monte
05-21-2012, 04:21 PM
If it has a coating on it that is intact that is perfect, it means the aluminum is still sealed. I should have that pattern in early next week, I just talked to my distributor and it'll be in their hands tomorrow and shipping out to me.

zedron
05-21-2012, 04:54 PM
PM me your number and ill text you pic of it.

inebrieated assistan
05-21-2012, 08:25 PM
Is there any where we can see the patterns you would have available? I may be interested in getting my glock's slide done.

Monte
05-21-2012, 08:57 PM
Right now I only have the carbon fiber. I will be getting two more called "reaper black" (the. skull pattern from the turbo above) and "reaper zombie". Do a quick search and you can find them. If I do end up starting some kind of business I'll get more....shit is expensive unless you buy in bulk.

Punisher11
05-22-2012, 08:45 AM
I'm wondering, could you bead blast aluminum before dip, then seal it after?

Das Kapitalist
05-22-2012, 11:09 AM
Ha. Bead blast.

Monte
05-22-2012, 12:15 PM
It would still be a porous metal. You could probably do it directly onto annodized aluminum though, as the heat-treat closes the pores.

Monte
06-01-2012, 08:42 PM
A few new pieces I did:

Toolbox Badge:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-05-29_09-46-32_919.jpg

Harley Davidson Air Cleaner (not cleared yet....will get darker):

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-06-01_08-24-46_780.jpg

Xbox Controller:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-06-01_21-30-15_742.jpg

I just got in a bunch of new films too in addition to those, Yellow and Red Carbon Fiber, skull/crossbones, digicamo desert and forest, snow camo, true-flames, and more of the skulls I used on my fuse box. Lemme know if anyone else is interested!

Punisher11
06-01-2012, 08:58 PM
do they make a blue digi camo?

Monte
06-02-2012, 06:04 AM
Navy style? Ive seen it done....but cant find it.

Monte
06-27-2012, 10:27 AM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-06-27_09-33-26_118.jpg

Just did this one for a customer's G20 turbo.

Ive recently had business cards made up, working on flyers, and all the tool trucks at work want me to do the badges for thier boxes like the Snap-On one. Now if I only had the money to finish the heating and pumping system on my tank so I can stop doing this in our bathtub :).

Double R
06-27-2012, 11:22 AM
I WANTS

Monte
06-27-2012, 12:48 PM
I WANTS

Send me some parts from your car.....they wont come back with camaro logos on them or anything.........

Double R
07-10-2012, 01:57 PM
Dude, come back. I was serious.

Some asshole just quoted me $400 to CF wrap a front valance. I'm going for looks here, I don't give a shit if it's wrapped or painted really. As long as it's durable and doesn't look like butthole.

All in all it would cost me around $650(after buying the valance) + whatever it would cost for him to ship it to me from Florida.

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/Product/Images/LRS-17626CS

That's what it'd be.

I could get you a fuckton of business from guys at SVT performance.

Monte
07-20-2012, 02:19 PM
I could probably do that once my tank is finished...probably a little long for the bathtub. A friend of mine has a new Boss, I can get the measurements from his car.

Monte
07-21-2012, 06:50 PM
I just finished my flyers:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/MontesFlyer.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/MontesFlyer1.jpg

I haven't used Publisher or Photoshop in years......criticisms? The background is a stock image from VistaPrint who did my business cards; I hope in the near future to come up with something better for a logo.

I'm going to start advertising on CL and a couple of other forums I lurk at and see where it goes! We are looking at a house right now that has a large shed that would be perfect to set up shop in with plenty of room for the tank and a small spraybooth for painting.

zedron
07-21-2012, 07:47 PM
Hey man. Im gonna send you a pic of my valve cover. It still has the factory finish on it but it has scratches. Once you get the pic let me know if I should strip it and then paint it or let you do it.

Cage
07-21-2012, 11:27 PM
do you get ur supplies from mydipkit.com?

I have a buddy who gets his shit from there, and just does all his dipping in a big plastic tub

Monte
07-22-2012, 07:10 AM
do you get ur supplies from mydipkit.com?

I have a buddy who gets his shit from there, and just does all his dipping in a big plastic tub

The Dip-kit stuff is kind of like the Chinese, Fischer Price way of doing things. Dont get me wrong Im sure he can make some good looking stuff with it, and has probably been doing it longer than I have. With their stuff you are limited on the size of parts you can dip due to the aerosol can vs an HVLP spraygun, a real 2-part clear is light-years ahead of the single stage clear-in-a-can, dipping in a tub gives you one or two dips before you have to clean it out where the 6ft stainless tank I am building will automatically clean the dipping area; lastly their pattern choices are limited in size and variety and are mostly Chinese knock-off films. Dont take that as an attack on MDK or your friend, but that kit is a way to dumb down the real process...kind of like what Scion did with car modifications; in the end the car you buy is your own custom, but just isnt as nice as the guy who spent hundreds of hour building his own.

Cage
07-22-2012, 11:51 AM
The Dip-kit stuff is kind of like the Chinese, Fischer Price way of doing things. Dont get me wrong Im sure he can make some good looking stuff with it, and has probably been doing it longer than I have. With their stuff you are limited on the size of parts you can dip due to the aerosol can vs an HVLP spraygun, a real 2-part clear is light-years ahead of the single stage clear-in-a-can, dipping in a tub gives you one or two dips before you have to clean it out where the 6ft stainless tank I am building will automatically clean the dipping area; lastly their pattern choices are limited in size and variety and are mostly Chinese knock-off films. Dont take that as an attack on MDK or your friend, but that kit is a way to dumb down the real process...kind of like what Scion did with car modifications; in the end the car you buy is your own custom, but just isnt as nice as the guy who spent hundreds of hour building his own.

oh nah man, he just does small stuff

light fixtures, controllers, emblems, computer cases etc . . . its more of a side hobby for him

I just wasnt sure if you was using the industrial shit, or the el-cheapo like my buddy

Double R
07-23-2012, 12:43 PM
pm me a quote monte

Stealth
07-23-2012, 01:53 PM
I want to water transfer my head, but I'm not sure your tube could fit it.

LMK

ISPKI
07-23-2012, 06:36 PM
This has probably been asked before but, how durable is this stuff and when are you going to start painting entire cars?

Monte
07-24-2012, 06:31 AM
Its as durable as the paint. The pattern is just ink between the base and clear coats. The clear I use is a 2 part automotive that is good to 400 degrees and quite chip resistant. Whole cars cant be done because I cant pick it up and put it in my bathtub...but once my tank is done Ill probably be able to do small fenders and other panels.

Monte
07-24-2012, 06:57 AM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/2012-07-24_06-59-29_20.jpg

Driving lights on my Subaru.

ISPKI
07-24-2012, 11:52 AM
About the cards - I think the lettering needs to pop more. The black letters on the first card kind of get lost on the card. The red letters on the second do the same thing, probably because they are red against a reddish/orange sort of background. The way I would do it. Keep most of the letters black and try and stick to one or two styles that arent as messy looking and are easier to read. Maybe make the text larger too. Most people are only going to glance at your card for a few seconds at most. You want to make it so that the information you really need them to see, they see in just a glance.

Monte
08-04-2012, 07:04 AM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/DSC03329.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/Monte88/DSC03332.jpg

Procharger snail I did as a test.

Stealth
08-04-2012, 08:27 AM
What's the life of this stuff? Like for when it's on the turbo and subject to high temps

Krawnic
08-04-2012, 01:07 PM
When i get a rzr I'd like to have the whole cage done. I suppose this probably isn't possible though lol

Monte
08-04-2012, 02:23 PM
Dont think of it as a coating....think of the paint. The pattern is just ink between a base and clear. Anything the paint can stand up to the ink can.

Monte
05-14-2013, 06:03 AM
I've gotten a little more serious in doing this stuff over the past year. I just made a Facespacetube site for it: www.facebook.com/MontesWTP (http://www.facebook.com/MontesWTP) . Let me know if anyone wants some work done! Of course special pricing for members, and a percentage of all work through here will go to the site.

herobyday
05-15-2013, 11:25 PM
I just looked at your facebook and there was some pretty amazing stuff. I will try to locate another goal mask so you can do something with it.